I would rate this episode four John Wick 3s out of five which is pretty good as my back and hips were fighting me during the whole interview. Friend of the show Dave Lang stops by to talk managing a studio in a pandemic, how Iron Galaxy responded to employee feedback for more company outreach and lessons learned 12 years in running a game studio.

The gang has on indie game dev Stuart Templeton who in addition to bringing thoughtful insider perspective also knew Brian when he was young and stupid instead of old and stupid. Brian got hit in the head with a frying pan and Cool Dad Phil Spencer is just trying to play with your heart.

Dave Lang isn't here. Neither is Brian. And this isn't Wednesday night. Is Impossible Coin built on a foundation of LIES?